How do you usually write the lyrics of your songs?
My lyrics are drawn from real places in my life and it’s often a feeling that sparks the lyrical ideas. I try my best to identify that central emotional and then write from that place. It’s like therapy, actually. I love it.
In your opinion, what is the most important thing in songwriting?
Honesty. When songs resonate with people, it’s often the story or message that hits them. I think it’s one thing to have songs that resonate, but another to have honest songs that resonate — I think when things are coming from a real place you find a deeper connection. As humans I think we all want to connect in some way or another, and when it’s true, honest, connection? That’s pretty special to me.
Are you ever scared of revealing aspects of your personal life/experience to strangers through your music?
Oh, all the time! With every vulnerable song I’m thinking like, oh, am I being too direct? Will the person that shared this experience with me in real life know that this song was about that time we did this or that? It’s scary but I guess that’s part of being vulnerable. If you don’t dare to show something deep, it gets hard trying to find a deep common ground.
What is the best lyric that you ever wrote (the most meaningful for you)?
Great question! From my released songs right now it’s a line in the chorus of “If I’m Honest” that goes ‘I’m writing this chorus to live me down‘. This was me trying to express the fact that I wrote that song in order to get through a shitty mood. As I was talking about earlier, I think songwriting is a strong form of therapy. I get my emotions out and in the process of turning them into songs I find that I understand them more and can articulate them better. What’s hitting me hard as well is from an unreleased song where I go ‘I wanna love the people but it’s so hard, ’cause I really ain’t the one to leave my own zone‘ — it’s about painful introversion and trying to be a good human being and still loving people regardless.
What inspired “Gravity”, part of your latest EP “EMOTIONAL SAUNA”?
Actually, a friend of mine asked me to remix a song for something, and I ended up choosing John Mayer’s “Gravity” because I knew it well, and because I really wanted to challenge myself to completely flip the song into my rebooted version. It’s musically sacrilegious if you ask me, so if John ever hears it I hope he doesn’t hate me!!
And “If I’m Honest”?
This was written when I was feeling down about myself. As I was saying earlier, this was a form of therapy for me and it’s a confessional. Through writing it I was able to be comfortable with the dark parts in myself. Not that I’m accepting the darkness but facing them in order to change myself for the better.
Do you remember the day you wrote “Make a Move”?
Definitely! I was at a local cafe and the idea for most of the verse and chorus came to me, so I sang it into my phone there and then with all the background noise, and kept massaging it till it found its final form… It took a while as I was trying to figure out my sound, but I thought it was a special time because it’s the song that kickstarted my journey as an artist. I’m posting that exact voice memo on my socials next week or so, so follow me there to check it out!
Is there a link/a common theme among the songs of the new EP?
The EP was arranged in such a way that you get a journey if you listen to it from track 1 to 7. There’s a continuity in the song’s themes because it’s all about the emotions we face in life, and if you think of a sauna, it’s actually like a human greenhouse. Each song is a distillation of one feeling and when you put it all together you get a snapshot of my past year or so!
What is the best suggestion your producer gave you?
I actually produced the whole EP myself, so I’ll share one of the best pieces of advice I’ve been given — it’s from a friend of mine, Scott Groom, who’s a songwriter, too. He said once that as a music creator you have to simply be persistent and consistent, and to not give up. That sticks with me to this day.
What are your plans for 2019?
I’ve been in the studio a lot finishing a buttload of new songs and I can’t wait to share it with the world real soon!
To conclude the interview a short Q/A session, please answer the first thing that comes to your mind:
- Define in one word your EP “EMOTIONAL SAUNA”: Introduction.
- The best show you ever played: It would have to be the last one I did, Sofar Sydney! Everyone was so invested and attentive to every note of every song, and that was special.
- The one thing that you must have in your backstage: Water… And a bathroom.
- The soundtrack of your childhood: Oh gosh. Okay here we go. “Macarena”.
- Your favorite song lyrically speaking, but not written by you: Currently? “Pretty Little Fears” by 6LACK featuring J. Cole. Brilliant.
- Last question is “unusual”, we want to know your best relationship advice: Communication is everything. I wish I was better at it, though. I guess I’m still learning. Thanks for having me!