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How do you usually write the lyrics of your songs?

I think the most common method for writing the lyrics on “Make or Break” was gathering bits and pieces of notes written to myself on my phone/notebooks, and voice memos that I felt fit the subject matter. At that point I would usually experiment with different meter and melodies  until I found a combination that gets stuck in my head.


In your opinion, what is the most important thing in songwriting?



Are you ever scared of revealing aspects of your personal life/experience to strangers through your music?

Not necessarily. However, I also believe that I use enough metaphors that listeners will often attach a certain degree of their own meaning to the lyrics.


What is the best lyric that you ever wrote (the most meaningful for you)?

I try to be sincere with all of my writing so that’s hard to answer. Sonically, I really like the polyrhythm that follows the lead guitars in the chorus of track 05, “Back and Forth”.


What inspired “Bad News”, part of your latest album “Make or Break”?

“Bad News” is about perseverance… Coming out ahead in times of adversity. The first verse is the preface of sorts, regarding a falling out with some unreliable friends. The second verse is about living with your choices. The chorus iterates the recurring theme, perseverance. The bridge during the guitar solo is about retrospect and consequently moving forward.

And “4150″?

“4150” was actually the first full song on this record to be written. It’s about feeling too depressed to get out of bed. It was also the last song on the

album to be named. We named it after our tour van. If you say “Ford E-150” fast enough, it sounds like you’re saying “4150”.


Do you remember the day you wrote “Interstate 75”?

“Interstate 75” was written over the span of nearly a decade. I tried out for a band when I was still a teenager, and brought with me a lot of the fundamental basis of what’s now “Interstate 75” to the table. One of the guys named John Rickerman came up with some lyrics, and his line “Start the car, Ocala’s not that far” was still stuck in my head years later haha. So I asked him if I could use the lines and he was cool with it, I’m not sure if he ever played in any other bands after that project… After some experimentation, the lyrics became more finalized when we recorded our last EP.

What are your plans for 2018?

Right now we are touring the East Coast in support of our debut LP “Make or Break”. We plan on hitting the road again before the year is up!


To conclude the interview a short Q/A session, please answer the first thing that comes to your mind:

  • Define in one word your album “Make or Break”: Energy.
  • The best show you ever played: People moshing during our acoustic performance in 2016 at Webster Hall in New York City was pretty memorable haha.
  • The one thing that you must have in your backstage: Water haha.
  • The soundtrack of your childhood: Take Off Your Pants and Jacket.
  • Last question is “unusual”, we want to know your best relationship advice: Transparency.
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